As far as I am The number proves that 1. the propellers could and would not be swapped and 2. that it is Titanic. Damage from Olympic's collision with Hawke was more significant Titanic's lifeboats had "RMS Olympic" written on them His theatre reviews were later collected as You Were Marvellous (1983). and would never get a job when they got out. Not content with an insurance scam 'switch' he also proposes that Titanic (really Olympic) hit, not an iceberg, but an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. It is, however, agreed that crew returning to England were under instructions to give evidence at the Board of Trade Inquiry and not to talk to the media beforehand. Actually, it is quite likely true that most of the Belfast 'delivery trip' crew did not sign on for Titanic's maiden voyage. Although the ship had 14, then later 16, portholes on the port side, she had 15 on her starboard side, and this number remained consistent throughout. Olympic was recorded as having a tonnage of 45,324 (1911-1912) while the Titanic was recorded as 46,328 - a difference of 1004 gross tons. However these differences are easily explained as Titanic was a work in progress and had many additions and alterations prior to her maiden voyage. - Able Bodied Seaman Joseph Scarrott "there was a large quantity of ice and snow on the starboard side of the foredeck Of course there is no testimony from Ballard himself, or from any of the other expeditions who would clearly have also seen this. A Garden from a Hundred Packets of Seed (2001) inventoried some of Fentons favourite plants and his philosophy on how they should be planted. In fact both Olympic and Titanic were launched with 14 portholes on the port side forecastle on C-Deck and 15 portholes on the starboard side of the same area. There were closer ships that would be more feasible. ", Claim: Author of two books exposing the theory, Steve Hall, has actually admitted on camera: "I would have to say the question remains open. The list is believed to be accurate, but may contain some errors. A statement supported by the attraction of more than 4,000 jobs and $1.4 B in Cap Ex. She had not all her boilers on, none of the single-ended While every effort has been made to follow citation style rules, there may be some discrepancies. The art of not violating the verse. surviving crew got to port they were all taken aside and met by two men, one The fields are mined and the wind blows cold. And those occasions he returned early were in June - never as early as April. Regardless, the key issue with this claim - like so many - is that there is no verifiable record of this - no exact quotation, date, location, photograph or even independent testimony of the account. There are other photographs of Titanic with similar liberties such as the shot of her in Cherbourg at night which has been heavily doctored to look as if it was taken at night with her lights blazing. (This was mentioned in Dan van der Vat and Robin Gardiners 1995 book, The Riddle of the Titanic, page 21.) Olympic had a 2 degree list to port, as did Titanic 5. previously published on the 'switch' theory -no doubt due to the release of the book "The Riddle of the Titanic" in 1996. 2. Claims for this range from "two of the firemen, boiler stokers and greasers" to "a large proportion of the engine crew" to the specific number of 173 who 'preferred to wait for employment on another ship.' Not to mention, Titanic was part of what was intended to be an "Olympic Class" trio of ships on the transatlantic service. Also, Fireman John Thompson said: I was told the ship was making close to twenty-three knots when she hit. Chirnside and Halpern discovered that "Titanics 546 mile run from noon Saturday to noon Sunday would be her best posted The panelling used shows a number on the frame that says 401. Quite simply Titanic was underinsured, the main reason being that the White Star Line actually insured its own ships. It is true that James Cameron sent a robot into the sitting room of what is called the Millionaire's Suite or Promenade Suite during his 1995 dive. ships the crows nest bell seldom has any writing on it.". Far from the wisdom of the brain. Toggle navigation. Again no mention here that lifeboats were seen from B Deck. Presenter Danny Wallace says: "This is a cracking conspiracy theory and all too tempting to believe were it not for the mass of evidence against it so it seems Titanic and Olympic never were switched, there never was an insurance scam." It is very plausible that the 1,000 pounds[sic] of tonnage was added to the Olympic in order to meet the weight [sic] of the Titanic. In Titanic's case, it was likely due to improper ballasting--too much on the port side or too little on the starboard. He claimed also that the crew had been ordered to sign the official secrets act. The "Titanic" is a ship that sunk by hitting an iceberg in 1912, that was previously considered unsinkable ("Titanic"). The full speed of the ship is 78 revolutions. how in just four and one-half days the Titanic reached the position where she sank if she was never able to travel at more than 12 knots! Without evidential support it is merely another concocted claim. Claim: Olympic's trials in 1910 took two days, including several high-speed runs, but Titanic's trials reportedly only lasted for one day, with allegedly none over half-speed. Firstly, to confirm, bulkheads are the upright partitions dividing a ship into compartments, which on Titanic were 'watertight' compartments or bulkheads. Accomplished through strategic, long term planning . the committee, announcing that he will be in Venice on April 23 for the inauguration of the biennial International Art Exhibition, April 25, and dedicate the new Campanile of St. james fenton titanic. It must be added that in 1912 it was not usual to have inaccurate artist's impressions and wrongly captioned photographs. The Chief Mate put Paddy in charge of Note that of these 6 vessels, 3 were travelling west and 3 were travelling east. performance, only two miles shy of Olympics best ever maiden voyage daily run, and she did that with only 21 even higher than IMMs.". James Fenton, in full James Martin Fenton, (born April 25, 1949, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England), English poet and journalist who was remarked upon for his facility with a wide variety of verse styles and for the liberal political views threading his oeuvre. While the Californian was primarily designed to transport cotton, there is absolutely no evidence that it had a The reality is that Olympic's yard number 400 is all over the scrapped items - and this is documented: (see more information on this here). This line of reasoning goes with the assumption that Olympic's keel was damaged, for which there is no evidence as discussed in the point above. The warped keel apparently gave the Olympic a permanent a 2 degree list to port and the ship builders stated that it could not be corrected without rebuilding half of the ship. At least one of them would speak to someone, or at the very least have a deathbed confession and not one single report was ever made. Numerous ships were stationed nearby despite a coal strike, 27. Difference in tonnage 7. Albert Edward James* -Able bodied seaman Hosgood, R. -Fireman Hosking, G. F. -Senior third engineer . The ships that were launched were not launched in a finished state. In discussing the claim that "Olympic was fitted with Titanics starboard propeller shaft" Mark Chirnside summarises: "There is no evidence that Harland & Wolff ever used one of Titanics propellers, or propeller blades, on Olympic; there is every reason to believe that they would have had a spare Olympic propeller in any case.". The proceeds financed his journey that year to Cambodia, where he reported on the Khmer Rouge, and then to Vietnam, where he witnessed the fall of Saigon (now Ho Chi Minh City) in April 1975. As for the White Star Line itself, it was the such as Titanic's A Deck promenade which was enclosed by a steel screen with sliding windows, to provide additional shelter, and the promenades on Titanic's B Deck which were reduced in size, and the space used for additional cabins and public rooms, including two luxury suites with private promenades. single-ended boilers in Boiler Room No. How could -and why would- a competitor become implicated in a massive and highly complex 'switch' theory, notably without a scrap of evidence to show for it? His answer, as it was in relation to the wreck only, is because "the wreck wasn't 100% confirmed until Jim Cameron's expedition in 2010/11 i.e. This is his testimony: I understand it has been stated that the ship was going at full speed. And as for both Lord and Smith sleeping "full clothed" that is pure speculation, and has little relevance anyway. of the surviving crew. 1852) and Susannah Haryott (b. It is pure speculation about a 'switch' that did not happen. 5. The Another set of poems was published by Fullers press as the broadsheet Put Thou Thy Tears into My Bottle (1969). https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-Fenton, The Poetry Archive - Biography of James Fenton, Poetry Foundation - Biography of James Fenton. The bulkheads were not actually sealed at the top, this oversight allowed water to flow over, filling each compartment, one at a time. There is photographic evidence of this being applied to Titanic, in the first week of March 1912 and which shows the stark contrast between the light grey primer and the fresh black top coat being applied, as seen below. If 'switch' conspiracy theorists believe this is the smoking gun of a switch Was this to hide 12 months worth of scratches and marks on the linoleum's surface? Claim: Titanic's lifeboats had small brass I.D plaques screwed on them and they all said "RMS Olympic". week and that the Captain and the company knew about it. So it is hardly likely crew would be forced to use it for the Titanic disaster. It must first be stated that it is correct that there is a difference between Olympic in Titanic in this regard. James A. Fenton aka "Paddy the Pig" Paddy Fenton is someone who had told his fellow seamen that they were in fact switched. It must be pointed out that only the hull of Titanic was launched with a basic superstructure. CourtesySteve Hall and Bruce Beveridge's book Titanic or Olympic, Which Ship Sank? shelved 11,906 times Showing 30 distinct works. - Lookout Reginald Lee at the British Inquiry (Day 4) ice " fall inboard. They were metal plates which were screwed on. Not to mention the difficulty in changing the shell-plating at the bow and stern which bore the ships names - the names were not just painted on the plates, they were cut into the plates in letters four feet high and one-half inch deep that were then filled in with paint. Also, fragments of linoleum have been recovered from the wreck, further proving this to be more likely than carpet. in the Government. To the untrained eye, the exterior differences between the two ships were minor anyway, so would have been deemed an unnecessary amount of extra work that would likely benefit very few. Ship's Bell with no name on it James is a public writer - engag, as he probably doesn't like to say - and it is his poems about war, dictatorship and exile that have won him the PEN/Pinter award. It is the Olympic, not Titanic. Author Steve Hall admits it could be the, 48. 8. the game. As will be discussed here, those that are not inaccurate, ill-researched, dubious or simply fabricated actually have very simple and logical explanations: 1. Does it reveal evidence of suspicious or unusual damage? Compare it with the damage photograph below. The actual triangular hole in the Olympic is much further aft than the location of the so-called 'patchwork' on the wreck. Claim: Olympic had a vertical joint in her hull plating immediately forward of the port side anchor hawse pipe, while Titanic during her construction did not. If not insurance, a switch would keep the company operational 19344. Where rust and marine life have flaked the top layers of paint from the hull of the wreck discovered by Dr Ballard patches of what appear to be white paint are exposed. Gardiner of course claims that all documentary records indicating otherwise were falsified in order to perpetuate the insurance fraud which was about to take place. This would seem very odd considering the fact that people were paying for Titanic's maiden voyage and not the Olympics maiden voyage. Interestingly, Gardiner himself has admitted the image is fake. It must be noted that the Official Secrets Act of 1911 was specifically concerned with espionage that would benefit enemy military use. 25. If he had indeed mentioned it at a presentation why did it not become substantial news at the time? Titanic sailor's deathbed confession of 'switch' (Click image to enlarge). So higher or sealed bulkheads would not necessarily have prevented Titanic from sinking, Claim: As welding had not yet been invented, it was customary for White Star Line to etch or cut the names of their liners into the steel and not rivet them to the outside. This photograph of Titanic leaving Belfast on her way to begin sea trials allegedly reveals discoloured plating in the same location where Olympic had damage after its collision with HMS Hawke. certainly not be unusual to discover a bulkhead in the stern of the wreck of Olympic, Titanic or Britannic and certainly does not prove a 'switch'. When questioned about the 'switch' theory at the Belfast Titanic museum Q&A in 2014, the man who discovered the wreck of the Titanic, Dr Robert Ballard, answers: "I think it is the Titanic at the bottom of the ocean.". Above right: Titanic , while still on the stocks and while fitting out in 1911, allegedly shows that there was no similar joint in her hull plating just ahead of her port side anchor. and loss account for the year to December 31 st 1911 was in surplus by 1,102,756 All other portholes on this part of the ship remained as they appeared at the time of her launch. The "Olympic" is the Titanic's sister ship ("RMS Olympic"), and part of the conspiracy . He wrote most of them when. And any allegation to the contrary - of an increase - needs evidence, for which at present there is nothing but unverified speculation. In fact what evidence suggests there could possibly be ice on Titanic's rigging? Specifically, her passenger (excluding crew) capacity was listed as 2,550: 1st-class: 100 Even more conclusively, a New York Times newspaper article of Thursday 28th March 1912 reveals that in March "J. Pierpont Morgan has written a cordial letter to from a Sky TV show entitled "Conspiracies", presented byDanny Wallace. Some also claim that the reason some crew did not sign up was specifically because 'the only thing that could not be made to look new were the ship's boilers, having already been used for 12 months on Olympic before the switch' and noticing this on the Belfast to Southampton crossing they decided to 'get off' at Southampton. Against the forward steel wall, the faux marble fireplace with its bronze details seems in perfect condition." And so we have established that the Olympic's wheelhouse was indeed curved. This claim is often accompanied with some unverified private anecdote of having met Ballard or seeing a presentation given by him shortly after the discovery of the Titanic in the 1980s. 2. The Poetry Archive -- James Fenton is one of the numerous poets featured on this fantastic website. Paddy said that the guilt of (Click to enlarge). Some thus reason that the swap still took place out of business and economic necessity. This is a classic example of a 'meme' using demonstrably false information or incorrect images to promote the 'switch' theory, as it can be very easily disproved when looking at documented photographs. THIS IS NOT A THEORY. You do not need to be an expert to see that it certainly does not. Seacocks opened to hasten the sinking One of the ships bells was His winning sonnet sequence was later published with the assistance of his professor, poet John Fuller, as Our Western Furniture (1968) and was broadcast on the BBC. Marble in the Sitting Room This claim is often mentioned alongside the above claim about the apparent discrepancy in the number of portholes on Titanic's port side bow. too difficult and improbable, Gardiner uses this to allege a more deliberate and logical plan. And that was a very surreal kind of image for me too to see these little white crabs crawling around in the fireplace of the room that was commissioned for J.P.Morgan. For sure bunker "W" was emptied as this is mentioned by survivors. Updates? Olympic's name is on the wreck The longer they were at sea, the more money it cost. According to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou "no such statement from any passenger is known." Secondly, there are many eyewitness accounts and descriptions of an iceberg. December 31 st 1911. His quote that "the question remains openI do not have enough concrete information" is from a 2004 episode named "Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank?" Quite simply, while the photograph of the wreck is correct, the image of the "actual Titanic" is not - it is of the Olympic. First and foremost we must address the fact that 'tonnage' mentioned here does not refer to a ship's "weight". (courtesy Steve Hall), According to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou, "the two additional portholes on Olympic were added about March 1912 during her short stay in Belfast and before the maiden voyage of Titanic. The swap was purely to keep the company in business. Did J. P. Morgan and J. Hall and Beveridge note in regard to this photograph that although "the overlapped doubler is hidden behind the stowed anchor, There was nothing particulary newsworthy about her. He later served as Oxford Professor of Poetry (199499), and lectures given during his tenure in that post were collected as The Strength of Poetry (2001). It could be compared to a short haul and long haul flights today -often requiring very different airline cabin crews. Linoleum flooring covered with carpets So does the post-disaster image of Olympic show the "doubler" overlapping or not? This was because Olympic's patched-up hull could not take any long periods of high speed. This is where Gardiner's theory starts to get even more bizarre. It makes complete sense that the local Belfast runners did not sign up for a transatlantic maiden voyage that they were not experienced or interested in doing (losing all the local jobs they were used to) when local Southampton crew were used to such "long-haul" trips. The montage was then later created by "AIVL, WHOI" and released by National Geographic on the 100th anniversary of the sinking in March 2012. off the bell. - Lawrence Beesley "the forward deck was covered with ice that had tumbled over" ("The Loss of the SS Titanic"). of her departure many outlets resorted to using photographs and footage of Olympic, leading to much confusion over the subsequent years. Did they have some idea that the ship which they were on was not the Titanic, but her damaged sister Olympic? But they were cut short for several good reasons. There is nothing here that reveals a 'switch'. The special effects of the . 4. Gardiner further hypothesizes that the ship that was hit by the Titanic was the one seen by the Californian firing distress rockets, and that this explains the perceived inaction of the Californian (which traditionally is seen as failing to come to the rescue of the Titanic after sighting its distress rockets). And there is overwhelming evidence presented on the previous page they were not switched. Most tellingly, if indeed "a large proportion of the engine crew" refused to work aboard Titanic because of rumours of a 'switch,' then why did these crewmen not speak out, especially after the disaster? Claim: Titanic had a newly named room, "The Olympic Room" because, superstitious shipping merchants believe it is bad luck to change the name on a ship, and J Bruce Ismay, and J.P. Morgan thought it best to have the Olympic's name still somewhere on board. It was only when she collided with an iceberg in a freak set of circumstances that she was suddenly thrust back into the media spotlight. their attention to it, and they all watched it disappear, but had then at once resumed There is not one occasion in which he The reality is that the Californian's cargo manifest does not exist. Firstly, a Harland & Wolff photograph of Olympic, taken when the vessel was in the Thompson Graving Dock in 1911, which shows her to have had a 'vertical joint in her hull plating immediately forward of the port side anchor hawse pipe'. ", The evolution of Titanic's port side portholes -from May 1911 when she was launched with 14, to April 1912 when she had 16. This image allegedly shows 'hull plating from the wreck showing white and light grey paint showing through the black top coat'. Fenton was also active in the theatre scene. EXCLUSIVE: To celebrate the 25th anniversary of James Cameron 's Titanic, the multiple Oscar winner and box office phenomenon has been set for a fresh theatrical release just in time for. huge and had been outfitted with the most expensive linoleum onboard (a "Persian Rug" linoleum pattern) so it does not make sense they would carpet over such an investment, especially as typically most dining rooms of the time were simply not carpeted. - Able Bodied Seaman Thomas Jones testified before the US Inquiry (Day 7), that he went on deck and could see some ice. 9 and was ordered by 1st Officer Murdoch down to A Deck where he helped with the loading of lifeboat No. This claim shows a total ignorance, not only of Olympic and Titanic but of ships and shipbuilding in general. her full speed if the weather cooperated. Ice on the deck was not from an iceberg, 26. Claim: Dr Robert Ballard has admitted that when he discovered the wreck of the Titanic he found evidence it was actually the Olympic. were not without further incidents either, as she was involved in several more collisions including with the Nantucket Lightship LV-117, causing the lightship to break apart and sink with seven fatalities out of Nantucket's crew of eleven. bivalve shell layers 2020-11-29 23:19 . between eighty and ninety feet.". anything like this. This is the wreck montage here: PHOTOGRAPH 2012 RMS TITANIC, INC. Veined marble is a naturally occurring metamorphic crystalline limestone and, like snowflakes and finger prints, no two pieces are the same. Was this done deliberately to help with the switch? Any discolouration could be explained as due to lighting conditions and/or photographic imperfections. About James Fenton. However it must be pointed out that even battleships with sealed bulkheads will still sink, as they can roll over. 6. Claim: A large proportion of the engine crew signed off just prior to the ill fated voyage starting from Southampton, during a coal shortage which meant that many sailors were out of work due to their ships being laid up. Which brings us to a total of at least 1047 aboard the Carpathia on the night of the Titanic disaster. Titanic advertising used photographs and artwork of the. 3. Titanic was in fact what the White Star Line called "Olympic Class" - so in effect had the name "Olympic" on her already. The Turkish bath spaces were different. Refer to the images below. Additionally, they were not "in the middle of a coal strike". Titanic or Olympic: Which Ship Sank? We must also remember that Cameron was exploring the Millionaire Suite on B deck, which has a promenade, something that was unique to Titanic, as Olympic did not have it. Captain Smith and Olympic's senior officers stand in the bridge area with the curved wheelhouse clearly behind them, left of picture. After this documentary went to air Steve Hall co-authored a new book Titanic or Olympic: Which Ship Sank? The boats were left until December 1912 in New York. However both RMS Olympic and RMS Titanic had their names riveted oncovering something up perhaps? Olympic, Titanic and Britannic) all had watertight bulkheads so it would And all of this without even mentioning that the Carpathia was owned by Cunard, the White Star Line's key rival on the transatlantic service. Mark's." The claim does not align with Ballard's writing on the matter. WELL HERE YA GO. While the Sea Scouts were restoring the old life boat they discovered the name Olympic cut into the gunwhale. These include: Lookout Fredrick Fleet, Quartermaster George Rowe, Quartermaster Alfred Olliver, (http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com). But for arguments sake let's take the larger of the two - the certified capacity number of both passengers and crew. Hall and Beveridge note in regard to this photograph that although "the overlapped doubler is hidden behind the stowed anchor, However it seems that conspiracy theorists make a deliberate mathematical error, and then label it 'conclusive evidence'. Carpathia (58 miles Cunard Line, Eastbound: Left New York Tuesday, Gibraltar and Mediterranean ports Corrections? Firstly it must be noted that welding was indeed invented during the 1800s, before the construction of Olympic and Titanic. During this process workers allegedly discovered the name Olympic 'carved into the gunwhales,' as 'the old name had been filled with putty and painted over.' We have been told by the look-out people that there were binoculars on the Olympic? ", Olympic (left) and Titanic during construction at Harland & Wolff, Belfast. Olympic survived too long for a badly damaged ship --Mal 21:03, 18 February 2007 . Firstly Titanic was not a "steel double-hulled vessel". 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